Analysis-For China and US Inc, Trump's trade war feels much worse this time

"The orders are half of what they were last year," said Chen, who is based in the manufacturing hub of
He is now in survival mode.
"There's no more scope to cut prices. But to get orders we sometimes have to take a price cut ... we have no choice," Chen said, declining to elaborate on cuts he had agreed to.
"We're losing money."
On
Chinese suppliers and their American clients are now coming to grips with the grim reality that this trade war will hit harder than in Trump's first term in 2018.
This time is different because low-end manufacturers are already struggling with razor-thin margins, so they cannot cut prices to help their U.S. customers, and local Chinese governments that might have provided support to protect jobs are mostly too cash-strapped to give new subsidies.
THIN MARGINS
Suppliers estimate wages have grown by 2-5% since the first U.S.-
"My whole business has been based on a long-term rate of 7.5%. It's been a real shock," she said, referring to two rounds of 10% tariff increases on Chinese goods in addition to a global 25% aluminium tariff.
"We knew this was coming but there's no way any company can mitigate an additional 45% in tariffs."
U.S. customers are pressing for 10% price cuts, according to interviews with 10 Chinese manufacturers and exporters and two U.S.-based retail executives with Chinese supply chain exposure.
Ongoing negotiations are yielding average discounts of 3%-7% from suppliers, they said.
"You have companies in the U.S. who have hundreds of factories that work for them sending out a mass letter asking for a blanket 10% reduction from all suppliers on all products," said
"Most people don't have 10% to give to be honest. Maybe they can do it for one or two orders, but 7% seems to be the ceiling for most people."
Walmart and Costco did not reply to requests for comment on this story. When previously asked by Reuters about their negotiations with suppliers since the imposition of new tariffs, Walmart supplied a statement that said "we will continue to work closely with them to find the best way forward during these uncertain times."
On the Chinese side, suppliers who got burnt in 2018 when some U.S. customers refused to pay for container-loads of goods subjected to higher tariffs are now asking for payments upfront rather than waiting 30-90 days after sending an invoice.
"We told our U.S. clients as soon as Trump got elected that the payment terms were 100% upfront with purchase order because we anticipated this tariff nightmare," said
JOB CUTS LOOM
The tariffs have rattled
He-
"I have noticed that quite a lot of enterprises have already decided to close their doors," Shi said.
Academic research from
That trade war also resulted in the loss of around 3.5 million Chinese manufacturing jobs, according to Reuters calculations based on Dartmouth estimates of the percentage of manufacturing jobs
Analysts say it's too early to estimate what the toll will be this time round.
Some U.S. customers believe Chinese authorities will step in to support their local manufacturing industries with additional tax rebates, rent and utilities subsidies or other support as they have done in the past - including in 2018.
"I have been on hundreds, maybe thousands of Chinese factory visits, and understanding how important these factories are to a local government, there will absolutely be support when push comes to shove," said one U.S.-based retail executive who declined to be named because he was not authorised to speak with the media.
Several suppliers interviewed by Reuters said, so far, new support had not been forthcoming.
Economics professor Shi said the heavy debt loads of local governments, many weighed down by an ongoing property crisis, will prevent them from being as generous with subsidies as they have been in the past.
"If there's no money in their pocket, how can they provide any subsidies?" he said, adding that any move that put them deeper in debt would not be welcomed by
The message from
While one of the stated aims of Trump's tariff regime is to draw manufacturing back to the U.S., Citibin's Picarazzi says she has looked into the possibility at least half a dozen times and it remains unfeasible from a cost and quality perspective.
For now, as she prepares to move 100% of her manufacturing to
"This is just a really unfair thing for the American government to do to American companies and American consumers," she said. "There is no patriotism in ruining American companies."
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